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Force Shield Protection
« on: June 28, 2023, 12:58:48 am »
Force Shield says it creates a telekinetic bubble arounds you that protects you from damage.  Obviously any attack that targets you would be affected.  ¿But what are about AOE attacks (Autofire, Force Slam, Hatred, grenades)?  ¿Also would it protect you from harmful atmospheres (extreme heat/cold, poisonous gas, etc) assuming it is created and maintained in an area with a harmless atmosphere, if so how much breathable air is inside?  ¿Can you attack from within it, assuming you have the action to do so?

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Re: Force Shield Protection
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2023, 01:34:12 am »
The AoE attacks that want to deal damage will certainly see the SR provided by Force Shield.

I feel that having it protect your from harmful atmospheres (beyond the damage) is beyond the scope of that power.

Having it up shouldn't affect what you can do.
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Re: Force Shield Protection
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2023, 01:54:02 am »
So it can be used to reduce the damage from something like lava, but not survive in space (take that Disney).
I'm pretty sure this has been asked before, but I couldn't find it.  ¿If a character using Force Shield, deflects/redirects, which is applied first the deflect or the shield?

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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2023, 03:58:12 am »
Deflect comes into effect when you´re hit, thus before rolling the damage, so I assume it should come before the shield. Now if we would consider Negate energy Force power, I´d give that one after the shield, as you need to negate only what gets through

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2023, 08:00:15 am »
  ¿If a character using Force Shield, deflects/redirects, which is applied first the deflect or the shield?

When you're using them as a Reaction it is one OR the other unless you can take two Reaction to a single event.  The odd thing about Force Shield is that it doesn't really specify what you are reacting to so I can see letting to react to someone moving into a position to attack you before actually attacking you.

I generally see a character getting on reaction to any given action by the opponent.  If an opponent uses his standard to attack you get one reaction for that entire cycle of events.  If attacked you don't get to react to being targeted, the attack roll, and any damage roll but could only react to one of those three parts to being attacked.
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Re: Force Shield Protection
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2023, 06:03:48 am »
As for surviving in space that is just not covered well by the rules in SAGA. She probably survived the initial exposure and went into a Force Trance. That would possibly extend the time she survive by a factor of 10. The rest is mostly how it is presented.

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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2023, 07:30:39 pm »
IIRC, there is a method in Saga Edition for surviving vacuum. That method doesn't include telekinetic flight, though. :)

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2023, 11:46:45 pm »
IIRC, there is a method in Saga Edition for surviving vacuum. That method doesn't include telekinetic flight, though. :)


As a hazard Vacuum is described on pg 253 of the SECR as CL 8 hazard.  Now the attack against FORT at +20 is nasty at moving you down the CT and missing still moves you down the CT but that does give you a brief window before you'd fall unconscious.  In really life as long as you could find a way to breath being in a vacuum isn't super lethal as our bodies are designed to hold in the pressure.  Perhaps the effects of losing pressure are exponential  but there are creatures that go through a much greater change in pressure regularly.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2023, 04:10:46 am »
IIRC, there is a method in Saga Edition for surviving vacuum. That method doesn't include telekinetic flight, though. :)

As a hazard Vacuum is described on pg 253 of the SECR as CL 8 hazard.  Now the attack against FORT at +20 is nasty at moving you down the CT and missing still moves you down the CT but that does give you a brief window before you'd fall unconscious.  In really life as long as you could find a way to breath being in a vacuum isn't super lethal as our bodies are designed to hold in the pressure.  Perhaps the effects of losing pressure are exponential  but there are creatures that go through a much greater change in pressure regularly.

(When I said "in Saga Edition", I meant the game system as a whole.)

Like you noted, vacuum is considered to be an CL 8 atomospheric hazard in the CRB.

In the JATM there is a Force Regime called Oxygen Bottle. Succeeding at it gives the user a bonus against inhaled poisons and non-corrosive atmospheric hazards for the next 24 hours. The top tier of success (UtF 38+) makes the user immune to inhaled poisons and non-corrosive atmospheric hazards - which includes vacuum.

Any cautious Jedi/Force-sensitive who has learned Oxygen Bottle would use it daily while on board a starship that's travelling in space.
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Re: Force Shield Protection
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2023, 04:50:15 am »
I meant that it's not covered by Force Use. There are of course several ways to survive vacuum using technology.

I did not think of Force Regimens. Great find on Oxygen Bottle. I confess I have never actually used those Force Regimens. The first time I read them I thought that they required a lot of strange items and then mostly forgot about them. Having the cargo hold filled with wax cylinders may draw some attention...
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Re: Force Shield Protection
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2023, 06:27:08 pm »
Play as a Givin.  They have the ability to survive in a space as a racial ability.

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2023, 10:04:20 pm »
Play as a Givin.  They have the ability to survive in a space as a racial ability.

That is certainly their gimmick.  Well that and their brains supposed function like super computers for mathematical computations.
 
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