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In both this and the Reddit thread, even though I got some great advice, I didn't get the help I was looking for. So let me ask instead, which of these two builds would be more effective for playing through Dawn of Defiance? The first one’s order is more defensively spec’ed, while the second one is a little more offensively spec’ed. Again, any assistance would be appreciated.

Defensive
Lvl 1: Soldier 1; Extra Second Wind (Lvl Feat), Melee Smash
Lvl 2: Soldier 2; Martial Arts I (Soldier Feat)
Lvl 3: Soldier 3; Unstoppable Combatant (Lvl Feat), Unrelenting Assault
Lvl 4: Soldier 4; Grand Army of the Republic Training (Soldier Feat)
Lvl 5: Soldier 5; Armored Defense
Lvl 6: Soldier 6; Accelerated Strike (Lvl Feat), Double Attack (Soldier Feat)
Lvl 7: Soldier 7; Improved Armored Defense
Lvl 8: Noble 1; Linguist (Noble Feat), Face the Foe
Lvl 9: Noble 2; Unstoppable Force (Lvl Feat), Recovering Surge (Noble Feat)
Lvl 10: Noble 3; Luck Favors the Bold
Lvl 11: Soldier 8; Triple Attack (Soldier Feat)
Lvl 12: Scoundrel 1; Fast Surge (Lvl Feat), Point-Blank Shot (Scoundrel Feat), Stymie
Lvl 13: Elite Trooper 1; Mandalorian Glory
Lvl 14: Elite Trooper 2; Damage Reduction/1 (ET Ability)
Lvl 15: Elite Trooper 3; Weapon Focus – Simple (Lvl Feat),  Armored Mandalorian
Lvl 16: Soldier 9; Juggernaut
Lvl 17: Elite Trooper 4; Damage Reduction/2 (ET Ability)
Lvl 18: Elite Trooper 5; Triple Crit (Lvl Feat), Extended Critical Range
Lvl 19: Elite Trooper 6; Damage Reduction/3 (ET Ability)
Lvl 20: Elite Trooper 7; Whirling Death

Offensive
Lvl 1: Soldier 1; Extra Second Wind (Lvl Feat), Melee Smash
Lvl 2: Soldier 2; Martial Arts I (Soldier Feat)
Lvl 3: Soldier 3; Unstoppable Combatant (Lvl Feat), Unrelenting Assault
Lvl 4: Soldier 4; Grand Army of the Republic Training (Soldier Feat)
Lvl 5: Soldier 5; Armored Defense
Lvl 6: Soldier 6; Weapon Focus - Simple (Lvl Feat), Double Attack (Soldier Feat)
Lvl 7: Soldier 7; Improved Armored Defense
Lvl 8: Noble 1; Linguist (Noble Feat), Face the Foe
Lvl 9: Noble 2; Triple Crit (Lvl Feat), Recovering Surge (Noble Feat)
Lvl 10: Noble 3; Luck Favors the Bold
Lvl 11: Soldier 8; Triple Attack (Soldier Feat)
Lvl 12: Scoundrel 1; Unstoppable Force (Lvl Feat), Point-Blank Shot (Scoundrel Feat), Stymie
Lvl 13: Elite Trooper 1; Extended Critical Range
Lvl 14: Soldier 9; Juggernaut
Lvl 15: Elite Trooper 2; Accelerated Strike (Lvl Feat), Damage Reduction/1 (ET Ability)
Lvl 16: Elite Trooper 3; Flurry Attack
Lvl 17: Elite Trooper 4; Damage Reduction/2 (ET Ability)
Lvl 18: Elite Trooper 5; Fast Surge (Lvl Feat), Mandalorian Glory
Lvl 19: Elite Trooper 6; Damage Reduction/3 (ET Ability)
Lvl 20: Elite Trooper 7; Armored Mandalorian

My apologies, looking back I should’ve been a little more clear on a few points. I’ll try to respond to each of them. That said, thank you very much for taking a look here, it’s greatly appreciated!

There appears to be too many trained skills (if that's all that's listed) as 6 (Noble) +2 INT = 8 and I count 9.  Use of Backgrounds says *(&* CLASS SKILLS!!!
Ah, the DM misinterpreted that as being you added the bonus Skill directly to your list of known Skills. I’ll let him know that that’s wrong.

I see 9 Force Powers listed as well when Force Training x2 w/ WIS 16 should only give 8.
I screwed the pooch on this one. We’re playing through Dawn of Defiance, and last adventure he gave him Force Blast, presumably because the adventure told him to, but I won’t look through the book to confirm that.

Ability scores are godlike and ILLEGAL.  With optimum advance advancement starting scores are 10, 18, 14, 12, 16, 20!  That 20 is NOT POSSIBLE.  Even dropping that down to 18 still leaves a point buy equivalent of 54 when expected stats should be 25-28 points.
Oh yeah, the 20. I forgot about that completely. He told the DM that he found another source that claimed that Miralukan’s got a +2 to Cha instead of Int. Good to know that he was full of it since I couldn’t find anything else on it.
As to the rest of it, there’s only 3 of us playing, and I think our DM allowing the other player (his wife) to “roll” as well (her stats are worse than his), and because there’s only 3 of us and he’s not reducing any of the CR’s for the fights is the reason he’s allowing their crazy high stats. I’ve already pointed it out, but at this point more than anything I feel foolish having done the Point Buy myself lol.

Feats and Talents actually look possible.  THIS MAY BE THE ONLY LEGAL THING ON THE SHEET.
That’s where my math gets a little wonky. So from what I’m seeing, he’d get the following Feats:
Miralucan Racial: Force Training
Noble 1: Linguist, WP (Pistols), WP (Simple)
Level 1: Skill Focus (UtF)
Jedi 1: Force Sensitive
Jedi 2: WP (Lightsaber)
Level 3: Force Training
That would Weapon Focus (Lightsaber) as not being valid. Am I right on this or is there another Feat source that I’m missing here?

Attacking with both end of a double bladed lightsaber would incur -10 penalties on BOTH attacks.  This means his normal +4 attack with a lightsaber (+3 BAB +1 Focus) now becomes -6/-6.
I’m seeing on his Roll20 sheet (which I only have access to because the DM wanted me to look things over) that his Double-Bladed Lightsaber Attack is +7 as a base due to the Mod being Dex and not Str (which is where the -3/-3 comes from). He should only get that with Weapon Finesse correct? I don’t see that listed on his sheet at all.

Hitpoints are unusually high.  They're +8 what I'd normally use and some consider my uses of fixed hp/HD to be very generous.
Probably dumb of me to give the benefit of the doubt to him here, but just this once I think I’ll give it to him.

REF = 10 + 1 class + 4 level +3 DEX = 18/15 so that's too high. WILL is the same but w/ +2 class and WIS = 19.
Shouldn’t Ref be:
10 + Heroic Level (4) + Dex (3) + Class Bonus (1) = 18
Will makes sense, thanks!

DON'T use Backgrounds and Destiny...
Already tried that, but I’m just ice skating uphill. It’s the DMs call and he says it’s how he evens out there only being 3 of us (I guess along with the stats lol).

Again, thanks for all the help you’ve already given me, and for any other Qs I have that you may answer. I’m still very new to Saga and I’m trying to learn as fast as I can. So your (and everyone’s) help is a big…well, help!

@ StevenO
Lol yeah, but we started The Traitor’s Gambit the other day, and the first fight the way she was build at the time, she was completely useless. The second fight she was knocked out right off the bat. So again, I’m less concerned about the severely above average stats than I am finding a build that can help the group (only 3 of us playing).

I completely missed the Camouflage Poncho lol. And yeah, I see what you mean about the Feat, I’ll definitely add that back in.

Would you say that there’s a way to consistently cause someone to be Flat-Footed? If so would you recommend the Scout/Jedi/Vanguard or Infiltrator go for a sniper build, or would more of a CT build be more manageable? (Ty for all the help FYI!)

Yep, that would be me. I had already posted 2 things on that board and I was a little worried that I'd overstay my welcome posting 3-4 topics in a week. Guess that backfired lol. So the DM and his gf (the player) listened to some suggestions I had, but did not go in the most...useful of directions with it. Here is what they have (apologies if the math on anything is wrong, I've gotta go run some errands and I'm putting this together on a clock). The build is below. She has expressed interest in moving on to Pathfinder for the Create Cover Class Feature. I'm just worried because she has never played a Stealth character (and neither have I so I'm very limited in my usefulness here) and the other players are not the kind to step up and offer her any assistance even though she's new.

ASHA
Small Ewok Scout 2
Destiny N/A; DP 2; Force 6
Init+11; Senses Perception+8
Languages Basic, Huttese, (Undecided), (Undecided)
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Defenses Fort+16, Ref+20 (FFooted+15), Will+14
HP 38; Threshold 16
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Speed 6 squares
Melee Dynamic Hammer+1 (2d8+1
Ranged Bow+6 (1d6+1)
BAB+1; Grapple+1
Atk Options N/A
Special Actions Second Wind (1 per day; 16 HP; one Second Wind per encounter)
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Abilities Str 10 (0), Dex 20 (5), Con 16 (3), Int 15 (2), Wis 14 (2), Cha 10 (0)
Special Qualities Scent, Sneaky
Talents Improved Stealth
Feats Forest Stalker, Shake It Off, Skill Focus (Stealth), WP (Simple)
Skills Climb+6, Endurance+9, Initiative+11, Perception+8, Piloting+11, Stealth+11, Survival+8
Possessions (Undecided)