Author Topic: New Lightsaber Form Power (Read 209 times)

khan strider · « **on:** May 12, 2019, 06:55:59 pm »

A recent talk with a friend on Star wars Lightsaber form powers had them asking about creating a form power they used this maneuver here as an example of what they wanted

though our talks i have come up with the following

Deflecting thrust
[Lightsaber Form, Telekinetic]
You Block an opponents strike at you with your saber then hurl them away from you with the force.
Time: reaction (when an adjacent oponent makes a melee attack against you).
Target: you plus one enemy within your reach.
Make a use the force check. the result of the check determines the result if any
DC 15: compare the result of your use the force check against the attack roll of the incoming attack. if your use the force check equals or exceeds the incoming attack roll the attack deals half damage on a hit. in adition compare the result of your use the force check to the targets fortitude defense. if your use the force check equals or exceeds the targets fortitude defense you push them 2 squares away from you. this movement does not provoke attacks of opertunity. you cannot move a target of they are grabbed or grappled
DC 20: As DC 15 except you push the target 3 squares away from you
DC 25: As DC 15 except you push the target 4 squares away from you
DC 30: As DC 15 except you push the target 4 squares away from you

Currently i am debating on which Lightsaber form it would be. my friend was aiming for soretsu as it is a purely defensive maneuver. however the two Telekinetic powers in system are Niman form.
I also am debating for the special between two options

Special: You can spend a force point to take no damage from the incoming attack if your skill check equals or exceeds the attack roll of the incoming attack.

Or

Special: you can spend a force point to knock the target prone at the end of the forced movement.

StevenO · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2019, 10:05:43 pm »

I guess the first comparison is with Deflecting Slash. Now Deflecting Slash may not get compared to FORT (which probably should have a size modifier) BUT Deflecting Slash does require a target to be within reach to use the extra attack it grants as it is triggered by range attacks. It ties to Soresu which could work here as it is dealing with a Block/Deflect type power.

Next up I spy Fluid Riposte which can negate half the melee damage of an attack, let you reposition next to the attacker, AND also gives a free attack against the guy who triggers it. No scale here but it's pretty potent and the Djem-So tie in is almost insane (even if Djem-So may not be due to the FP cost) because of how well it ties in effectively giving two attacks when hit.

Makashi Riposte seem almost like Deflecting Slash but for melee. Use it to reduce damage and get a free attack. Not sure how good the Makashi tie in is although it potentially makes getting AoO against the "target" easier.

I guess I could keep going but all I'm doing is convincing myself that this may not be too bad at least compared to similar powers. Guess maybe I should think of some "specials" as well as what Form you might tie it to although in a lot of ways it does remind me of Unbalancing Block.

Somehow I'm thinking Sokan as the Form and having an associated benefit of letting you attack the target or perhaps just as bad have that forced movement provoke AoO from any who it may pass by when normally forced movement does NOT allow AoO to be made.

khan strider · « **Reply #2 on:** May 12, 2019, 11:46:22 pm »

For numbers i have i based it on makashi/fluid riposte for the blocking a melee attack and the push i took the numbers from pushing slash.
Sokan would be interesting one that i did not think of for it but as this does help control the battlefield that could fit well. shien or djem so being counterattack focused could work but didn't feel right to me.

fairytalejedi · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2019, 05:50:21 am »

Anything that incorporates Force powers such as TK into lightsaber sequences is Niman by default. There's almost nothing else, fluff-wise, that it could be, since if other forms concentrated on developing such techniques, there would have been no need to develop Niman in the first place.

As for the special, I would go for spend a FP to knock the target prone. Makashi riposte allows you to spend a FP to take no damage instead of half damage because it's specifically a dueling style. Its focus is on bladework, and the special reflects that. Niman on the other hand is an all-purpose style with relaxed emphasis on bladework. Thus, IMO knocking the target prone (reflecting Niman's Force emphasis) would be better suited for Deflecting thrust.

khan strider · « **Reply #4 on:** May 13, 2019, 03:16:36 pm »

well niman wasn't just telekinetic in other sources but i see your point mechanically.

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