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Dark Deflection [PEACH]
« on: January 31, 2019, 06:42:46 pm »
I've been toying with the idea of Vaapad's ability to deflect an attacker's rage. The following talent would be a kind of unique Force tradition talent, meaning you'd have to be a third tier Force using class to take it. Thoughts and opinions welcome.

DARK DEFLECTION
You allow your opponent's rage to pass around you without touching you, strengthening your resistance to rage-based attacks.
Benefit: Once per round as a reaction, when you are targeted by an attack that receives a rage bonus, you may add your opponent's rage bonus to one of your Defenses, up to the value of your own Charisma modifier (minimum 1).
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Re: Dark Deflection [PEACH]
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2019, 07:03:35 pm »
I'm not sure how that should work. Even if you are not affected by the rage, it is the other combatants rage that is affecting him. He gets the bonus and the penalties.

I think that a talent like this would let you reflect the same rage as your opponent, giving you the same bonus to attacks and the same drawbacks as well. I don't see it as a means of defence, Vaapad is a aggressive, not a defensive style of fighting.

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Re: Dark Deflection [PEACH]
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2019, 07:32:04 pm »
Hmm. My other idea was that it allows you to use rebuke when targeted by an attack enhanced by dark rage specifically. If you succeed, the opponent does not receive his rage bonus to attack and damage. If you succeed by 5 or more, you may instead choose to receive the same rage bonus that the opponent receives, and you increase your own DSS by one.

This would explain why Mace used it without falling to the dark side, but Sora Bulq did eventually fall.
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Re: Dark Deflection [PEACH]
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2019, 07:39:36 pm »
Oh, I should point out re: the talent in the OP, it doesn't necessarily have to represent Vaapad, although that inspired it. But is the talent good on its own?
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Re: Dark Deflection [PEACH]
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2019, 08:11:45 pm »
It's a bit weird to me, I could see a talent letting you copy the effects of your opponents rage, but not protecting you from the rage of others. Thya adepts could possibly have a talent that let them calm others, ending rage prematurely.

It's not a bad idea to start with, I just don't agree with the effect. But I guess it would depend on the tradition using the talent and the fluff description. If it is some form of premonition, tapping into your inner calm to anticipate the moves of the enraged opponent, then maybe. Should require the expenditure of an instance of Farseeing if that is the case, maybe a swift action to maintain the effect?

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Re: Dark Deflection [PEACH]
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2019, 09:42:45 pm »
Well, the Unbalance Opponent talent allows you to negate an enemy's Strength bonus to their attack rolls.  Perhaps this talent would do the same with an enemy's rage bonus on attack rolls.

If the ability is some sort of premonition, I feel like Prescience is a perfect fit here.

Maybe it could be an expansion of the Tyia Adept talents, perhaps allowing the Repel Discord talent to apply to an attack benefiting from a rage bonus.
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Re: Dark Deflection [PEACH]
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2019, 10:07:40 pm »
I've been toying with the idea of Vaapad's ability to deflect an attacker's rage. The following talent would be a kind of unique Force tradition talent, meaning you'd have to be a third tier Force using class to take it. Thoughts and opinions welcome.

DARK DEFLECTION
You allow your opponent's rage to pass around you without touching you, strengthening your resistance to rage-based attacks.
Benefit: Once per round as a reaction, when you are targeted by an attack that receives a rage bonus, you may add your opponent's rage bonus to one of your Defenses, up to the value of your own Charisma modifier (minimum 1).

Not a big fan of it as presented.  Now the way I'm reading it is that this should basically just negate the Rage bonus to an attack made against you which I think is something that you SHOULD be able to do although I'd reword it.

Cool Defense
Benefit:  When attacked by someone using some a Rage bonus you may negate that bonus to the attack.  If used you can NOT use this talent until until the beginning of your next turn.
Special:  You can not use the benefit of this talent if you are currently in a Rage condition.

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Re: Dark Deflection [PEACH]
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2019, 08:15:05 pm »
Thanks to all for your input. :)

I like the Repel Discord option. Perhaps a Repel Rage talent? Plus, an Improved Repel Rage technique that allows you to extend the duration of the effect for a number of additional rounds equal to your Cha modifier.
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