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Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« on: March 20, 2015, 04:43:23 am »
Hello, and welcome to Ultimate Dream Builds!
This is a contest where the sky is the limit on what you think you can create. Let your dreams about how it would be like in the Star Wars Universe guide you as you create unique and amazing character builds. Now to the rules:

1) House rules can only be used if you carefully explain your rules as part of your build.
2) Builds are limited to a max of Heroic Level 20. For Classes, Feats, Powers, and Talents, please use official Saga Edition sourcebooks as much as you can. If you have a house rule, you have to explain it in detail so we can understand the mechanics of it.
3) Unlimited Point Buy is allowed.
4) You are limited to 3 builds per contest. This keeps it a fair game.
5) Please stay on topic of the thread. If something needs to be discussed more in detail, please start another thread and move your thoughts there. This keeps the contest thread clean and simple.
6) You will have 21 days starting from the 1st posting of the current contest. After the 21 days, 7 more days for voting will be available. Winners will be decided by a simple majority of the cast votes. Only one vote per member is allowed You may not vote for yourself and no redos. All VOTES ARE FINAL!
7) The most important rule: HAVE FUN!!! Think outside of the box, and let those awesome dreams we all have take shape!
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This month contest should be a fun one! Lightsabers Forms! Shii-Cho, Makashi, Soresu, Ataru, Djem So/Shien, Niman, Juyo/Vaapad, Jar'Kai, and Trakata.

The Rules: Chose one of the Lightsaber Forms listed above. Make a Jedi (or Sith should you chose) that personifies that Lightsaber Form. Use unique blends of talents and feats to really give a good look into just really how each Form is used.
Extra Rule: You must use the Lightsaber Form talent you chose to build around in your build. No exceptions! The follow house rules regarding the Form talents apply: Jar'Kai does not require Niman, Trakata no longer requires BAB +12, nor Weapon Specialization.

Contest is now CLOSED. Congrats to West AG on his first UDB.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2015, 10:03:37 pm by MasterArkaine »
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Re: Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2015, 11:59:57 am »
Yum! I'll try not to repeat myself too much.
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Re: Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2015, 08:55:46 pm »
New poster to the board, and quick question about this contest.  Multiple forms have sympathetic effects, can I use multiple forms, or is it pick one and move on?

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Re: Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2015, 09:59:58 pm »
Welcome to UDB! You can choose multiple, but you must show why/how they work together.
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Re: Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2015, 10:52:38 pm »
Yum! I'll try not to repeat myself too much.

Shii-Cho is supposed to be developed from older sword fighting arts, right?  That's about the only place that ugly thing is going to be useful.
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Re: Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2015, 06:19:47 am »
I went ahead and made a character based off Soresu. She also uses other forms, all meant to aid in her defense, each blending together to ultimately make her into an unbreakable shield, an immovable object, and an insurmountable wall.

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Re: Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2015, 10:46:32 am »
Darforth, I know I tell you multiple is fine, but please tell me the use 3 form talents is mechanical to represent a single Form. The assignment was choose one form, then use what you need to personify that Form. If so, then its cool. If not, I wasn't clear enough when replied (my bad) and just rework the build as you need to. Either way, I love the build, just need to make sure it meets the assignment.
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Re: Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2015, 04:21:22 pm »
Ralrwarr               
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Re: Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2015, 09:47:38 pm »
Darforth, I know I tell you multiple is fine, but please tell me the use 3 form talents is mechanical to represent a single Form. The assignment was choose one form, then use what you need to personify that Form. If so, then its cool. If not, I wasn't clear enough when replied (my bad) and just rework the build as you need to. Either way, I love the build, just need to make sure it meets the assignment.
Arkaine, No worries, I've been at work all day then a family function with the kids tonight, so been unable to do anything till now.  Plus, I'll admit I got to thinking more about a character archetype than the saber type.  Going to be re-working  this one (or scrapping it for this and saving it to throw at my PC's in a game).  Thems the breaks of working on a build after a 14 hour day.  O.o
« Last Edit: March 21, 2015, 09:49:53 pm by Darforth Starstrider »
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Re: Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2015, 10:20:29 pm »
Coleman Trebor gets a bad rap for being taken out so easily in AOTC, so this is an attempt to redeem his reputation, featuring a good deal of speculation on my part.

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Coleman Trebor (Battle of Geonosis)               CL 11
Medium Vurk (middle-aged) Noble 6/Jedi 3/Jedi Knight 2
Force 2
Init +5; Senses Perception +13
Languages Basic, Bothese, Geonosian, High Galactic, Huttese, Semblan, Shyriiwook
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Defenses Ref 23 (flat-footed 23), Fort 23, Will 26; Lightsaber Defense +1, Niman
hp 63; Threshold 23
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Speed 6 squares
Melee lightsaber +9 (2d8+4)
Ranged by weapon +9
Base Atk +9; Grp +9
Special Actions Adept Negotiator, Coordinate +2, Instruction (1/encounter), Lightsaber Defense, placid
Force Powers Known (Use the Force +19): enlighten (2), mind trick, move object, rebuke (2), surge (2)
Force Regimens eyes of the Force, oxygen bottle, quiet the mind, telekinetic practice
Force Technique Improved Telepathy
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Abilities Str 9, Dex 10, Con 11, Int 14, Wis 17, Cha 18
Special Qualities breathe underwater, expert swimmer, nomad
Talents Adept Negotiator, Coordinate (2), InstructiontFU, Niman, Lightsaber Defense
Feats Force Regimen MasteryJATM, Force Sensitivity, Force Training (2), Linguist, Skill Focus (Knowledge [bureaucracy, galactic lore], Persuasion, Use the Force), Weapon Proficiency (lightsabers, pistols, simple weapons)
Skills Gather Information +14, Knowledge (bureaucracy, galactic lore) +17, Perception +13, Persuasion +19, Swim +4 (may reroll), Survival +8 (may reroll), Treat Injury +13, Use Computer +12, Use the Force +19
Possessions lightsaber (self-built), Jedi robes, utility belt
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Re: Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2015, 12:10:22 pm »
I had an Idea last night Luke's New Jedi order had the three rings that later became their stype Strong (effectivly djem so), medium (generally soretsu or shii cho represent it), and Fast (ataru) if i submited builds for master of the Lightsaber forms of the new jedi order would that be ok... i am not locking in that as my plan but the idea caame to me and i was curous about if it was allowable
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Re: Ultimate Dream Builds #18: Lightsaber Forms
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2015, 02:09:56 pm »
I had an Idea last night Luke's New Jedi order had the three rings that later became their stype Strong (effectivly djem so), medium (generally soretsu or shii cho represent it), and Fast (ataru) if i submited builds for master of the Lightsaber forms of the new jedi order would that be ok... i am not locking in that as my plan but the idea caame to me and i was curous about if it was allowable

Yes, just say what classic Form one of the three represents and use said classic form talent in the build. Talk about how the NJO didnt know the classic forms right away, so developed their own
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2015, 07:58:49 pm »
Some great build so far. Hoping for much more! ;D
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2015, 10:58:24 pm »
Whelp, got hooked, here is my 2nd try:  Juyo

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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2015, 09:46:09 pm »

Jar-Kai Edition!

Darth Cube



Versus!


J3D-Eye


Ready... Begin!



Pick your head up alter boy, and listen to me
Here comes the badass you always wanted to be
I wear black, I'm brooding, in short I'm the bomb
I got two sabres and a third for your mom

I'm an unstoppable force, like a Hutt's appetite
I do what I want, while you show out for the light
You're kneeling for the council, always do what your told
Not me fool, victory goes to the bold

Take your sabers home son, and I might let you live
I got dozens of ass kickings that I'm ready to give
While you're out doin' yoga, I'll be the one out pillaging
'cause I'm The Empire Strikes Back and you're the prequel trilogy

Mama jokes now, what are you twelve?
Time to take a step back and take a look at yourself
Mommy not love you enough, was your childhood rough?
Is that why you think you gotta act so tough?

Bent over for the dark since you couldn't hang with the light
Probably need a blue pill to make those sabres ignite
My armor's called "plot", I´m the goddamn hero
and I don´t even need two sabres with this Form Zero

I'm a jedi knight, ****;  I got brains AND brawn
You're just some creepy old dude's padawan
Better watch your mouth boy, 'cause I'm the real deal
Cross two sabres with mine, and your punk fate is sealed

Oh look here if it isn't the star wars Sigmund Freud
No wonder the only honeys you get are droids
I was doing Form Zero when you still lived in your daddy's jock
Your jedi arts are no match for this Dun Möch

Whole planets kneel to me, so you better start steppin'
It don't take yoda to see where this headin'
I'll give you this one last chance to run and hide
'Cause you don't know the power of the dark side

Power of the dark side?  Please.
No sith is stopping me while I got these (brandishes lightsabers)
Are you crazy, stupid, or are you just high?
You can't get through this Niman and JarKai

Your pride will be your downfall, your vanity, greed
So before you get carried away, I must intercede
You'll be living in a bacta tank by the time I'm done
So you better get ready, 'cause there can be only one


(Beats stop abruptly, Miyamoto Musashi walks in; and beats resume)



You two might be something in a galaxy far far away
But the master is here and I'm gonna mess up your day
I killed my first man when I was just twelve
You'll step to this?  You're foolin' yourselves

I been swinging two weapons since before you were born
They call me the greatest, so now you've been warned
You've got two sabres, but you're gonna need more
I've killed ****es with a half-broken oar

Niman? JarKai? Hah.

Niten Ichi Ryu is the one true form
I move like the swallow and strike like the storm
I've got five rings, but for you I'll only need one
You'll never compare, so this **** is done
 
(drops mic; walks away)


Who won???  Who's Next???
You Decide!


About the Builds

These are only CL10 builds, 25-point buy (StevenO should like that!).  Jar'Kai is such a broad and varied lightsaber form in the lore, so I decided to do separate builds to reflect the two extremes of the form. 

Darth Cube represents the offensively-focus, carve a path of destruction aspect of Jar'Kai.  He is able to fight multiple opponents and use his strength and emanating powers to carve a swath of destruction through his enemies.  Carried further than CL 10, there are some additions that would make him darn near unstoppable, and I leave those to the imagination.  This build is just the lightsaber combat base.

Meanwhile J3D-Eye represents the supremely defensive, create an impenetrable barrier of blades aspect of Jar'Kai.  Using his jar'kai lightsaber defense in conjunction with melee defense, his defenses skyrocket.  He can push them even higher by fighting defensively.  He keeps his defenses high, outlasting the opponent and drawing upon the tenets of Niman (which jar'kai is based upon), to try to talk down his opponents, and defeat them with "form zero".  Taken a few more levels, this guy can become nigh immortal, and again I leave it to the imagination.  This build is just the lightsaber combat base.

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