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Ship question: Why would anybody pick the YT-1300?
« on: September 16, 2016, 04:58:44 pm »
No, I mean that. Just looking at the Starships of the Galaxy and Galaxy at War books, I find at least 2 far better options - Ghtroc 720 (SotG) and the YU-410 (GaW). All three ships are the same size and have relatively the same stats - to the extent that it's about a 1 point difference here or there. So those numbers don't help us judge things too well, but here is something I have seen many players do: judge a ship by it's weapons and defenses and cargo capacity (and if it matters, passenger space). So let's do that.

First, let's out right say it. Everybody wants the YT-1300 cause its the Millennium freaking Falcon. We all wanted to be Han Solo and fly that ship, or even Malcom Reynolds and fly around in Serenity. OK, that out of the way, let's get down to it.

YT-1300: comes equipped with a single double laser canon, no shields and decent cargo bay of 100 tons. A nice package for 25,000 credits. Comes with 10 unused EP. Not bad all around, I suppose.

Ghotroc 720: here we get the same stats overall, but with an increased cargo capacity (135 tons), and a shield rating of 15 (though in exchange it does have 10 less hp compared to the YT-1300), holds an additional 4 passengers vs the YT-1300 and it’s cheaper - 23,000 credits. Has 3 unused EP.

YU-410: Another CEC design, it fits the bill for a party needing a ship. Now, it does cost you 30,000 credits, so it will dip into the pockets a bit more than the previous two, however, the price seems justified. Same HP, and DR as the YT-1300, but now we have SR 20. Cargo is bumped up to 250 tons, and we’ve got 12 passengers. It comes equipped with 2 double laser canons, and comes with 5 unused EP.

Now, for sheer price point alone, the YU-410 would get my money, but for 7,000 credits less, you can get a ship that is still better than a stock YT-1300. Now, this all assumes that all these ships are just stock when bought off a dealership and have not been modified in anyway, though to be fair that would jump the price higher. Again, stripping away the Millennium Falcon aspect, I can’t really find an reason to pick a YT-1300 over the other two. Even if the YU-410 is not available due to the time setting of the game, the Ghotroc 720 and YT-1300 are produced during the same time and even just a choice among those, I'd go with the Ghtroc 720.

Oh, and for some added fun, look at the Wayfarer Freighter in GaW, it’s on the next page after the YU-410. For an extra 20,000 credits, you can get almost the same cargo capacity(220 vs the YU-410's 250), among other assets, but now you have room for two gargantuan sized starfighters. Admittedly, this one is probably a bit out of reach for most groups (at least early on), but wanted to point it out just because I can.
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Re: Ship question: Why would anybody pick the YT-1300?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2016, 10:41:02 pm »
I'd be very cautious about using the used prices when comparing starships because they are all over the place when compared to new prices.  The "used" Penalty (which only kicks in once a ship is -3 steps down the CT at which time most ships are in BIG trouble anyway) really doesn't do nearly enough to justify used prices that may only be 15% what the listed new price is.  If you want a dirt cheap used price look at the Barloz class in CWCG.

The Ghtroc 720 and YT-1300 should be pretty close matches.  The YT costs 1500 more and stocks 100 tons of cargo instead of 135 but it also carries twice the consumables, has a higher INT modifier which could be useful towards astrogation depending on how the GM handles the use compter checks, and of course it has far more open EP to spend to customize it.  Now if you don't want to do more work on the ship, which of course cost more, then I certainly will agree that the Ghtroc is a better buy as it is slightly more maneuverable (DEX 14 vs DEX 10), has those very light shields giving it a slight advantage in how many hp it will take to destroy it, and has the edge in stock passenger and cargo space.  Why buy the YT-1300?  Customization options but also having twice the consumables and a better backup hypderdrive could be motivators for some.

I'm not sure what to make of that YU-410 with that massive 250 ton cargo space listing.  That and the SR 20 are both massive steps up from the YT-1300 but it does require twice as many crewmen for what is essentially a bigger YT-1300 but without as many customization options.  I still only has one weapon system onboard although it happens to default to 5d10x2 instead of just 4d10x2 damage.

When you consider how the prices, cargo and crew capacities, and certain other features of ships were written by people with no intention on having them fit into a RPG that also should be viewed cautiously.
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Re: Ship question: Why would anybody pick the YT-1300?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2016, 07:00:25 pm »
Definitely the YT series EPs, for me.
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Re: Ship question: Why would anybody pick the YT-1300?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2016, 12:28:57 am »
Definitely the YT series EPs, for me.

I take it a bit more and allow any craft made by Corellian Engineering to have the 10 EP start as a GM house rule. Most, if not all of their freighters are built to be highly customized. I would find it hard to believe if that doesn't rub off on other ship lines as well.
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Re: Ship question: Why would anybody pick the YT-1300?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2016, 08:59:13 am »
Definitely the YT series EPs, for me.

I take it a bit more and allow any craft made by Corellian Engineering to have the 10 EP start as a GM house rule. Most, if not all of their freighters are built to be highly customized. I would find it hard to believe if that doesn't rub off on other ship lines as well.

It does.  That's why they get 5 EP instead of the standard 1 EP.
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